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Cops without a rule
« on: April 03, 2010, 01:07:03 pm »
Cops should not have the chance to shoot civilians whenever they want without a reason or consequenzes. Civilans should be able to activate a kind of civial action against these kind of cops. These civial action should cost the cop 75% of his full money & his weapons.

Whatever find a way to adjust it. I see no difference to the other "Cheranus Server" atm in this wild west style.

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Re: Cops without a rule
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2010, 01:27:55 pm »
Well, originally the plan is that the CPD trains new cops, teaches them how to be good cops. But since we don't really have any active CPD members playing on the server, the new cops just see what everybody is doing and join in the deathmatching. The civilian action is a great idea, but there's still the usual rub of people being able to abuse it.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2010, 01:30:59 pm by b33 »

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Re: Cops without a rule
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2010, 02:09:26 pm »
quite the contrary!
I guess the players who wanna play on Cop side need more protection from civs who r "out of control"!
I think a good 1.step is to punish every Civ who kills more than 5 People in one hour mainly if he gets killed, spawns and kills again!
nothing else remains to be done...
I got a long experience in playing cop and i played basically by the rules but every second time i arrested somebody i need to justify my action (for more than 10min) no matter what he done (Murderer,Robber etc)
It's exhausting and frustrating.
On the other hand if i got killed and asked for a reason i mainly got just one sentence: Cause im a criminal...
« Last Edit: April 03, 2010, 02:56:25 pm by Frontschwein »
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Re: Cops without a rule
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2010, 02:13:57 pm »
I never had problems with civilians while i played cop.

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Re: Cops without a rule
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2010, 02:45:10 pm »
You save results in a database.Is it not possible to save the civial action or something in this direction ? You could spilt the punishment for the cops and civ btw. too,  if something like this happen . Im sure not all civ are angels or better than cops but if you want like to play this kind of game should be more security relvated things for all sides be available. A court (with players from this project as example) could handle it like a court :D 

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Re: Cops without a rule
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2010, 02:48:00 pm »
I never had problems with civilians while i played cop.

+1

The civilians might be the cause of some problems, but it's the cops' job to resolve them, without killing every suspicious civ.

Edit: @Grendula: I don't know if saving criminal records would go too far in terms of ultra-realism. Then there's the question again: Who is allowed to access the crime database, who is allowed to edit it.

A court is just not possible, there are too many people who just want to come on and have one or two, maybe three hours of good action. If you ask me, hell yeah, I would love more realism; it's just not doable right now.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2010, 02:52:22 pm by b33 »

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Re: Cops without a rule
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2010, 03:06:52 pm »
Well all affected players (Civ & Cops)should be able to make the records.   
The decision stays by the rp-mod team to handle it by warnings or bans.

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Re: Cops without a rule
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2010, 03:14:30 pm »
i just say,adda cheap stun gun for cops and make lethals expensiver,much expensiver
no offence,but i liked CLU and the other RP mods ALOT more when it was controlled in english versions.

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Re: Cops without a rule
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2010, 03:38:07 pm »
Cops dont use stuns because this is not effective to have different guns to stun and to kill.
More rifles with grenade launchers would help.
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Re: Cops without a rule
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2010, 03:49:18 pm »
wts 64 round stun rifles 260k  :P

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Re: Cops without a rule
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2010, 04:05:58 pm »
The main problem relly is yes there are rules. The just super vague and around 90% open to interpratation for exsample RP can mean a million things. Theres a non RP rule but there isent a blow up people stuff for no reson rule. or a common one "if you want to kill cops steal the convoy park it somewere and wait for them to come then shoot them"... The rules are just to vague hence the deathmatch feel that arises after a crime is commited.

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Re: Cops without a rule
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2010, 04:09:01 pm »
quite the contrary!
I guess the players who wanna play on Cop side need more protection from civs who r "out of control"!
I think a good 1.step is to punish every Civ who kills more than 5 People in one hour mainly if he gets killed, spawns and kills again!
nothing else remains to be done...
I got a long experience in playing cop and i played basically by the rules but every second time i arrested somebody i need to justify my action (for more than 10min) no matter what he done (Murderer,Robber etc)
It's exhausting and frustrating.
On the other hand if i got killed and asked for a reason i mainly got just one sentence: Cause im a criminal...
front you get plus one exactly my experience on the game to a T. i spent all my time being killed and scrutinised.And hated because i stood up for myself.
Just because i rock does'nt mean im made of stone :D

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Re: Cops without a rule
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2010, 04:12:47 pm »
The main problem relly is yes there are rules. The just super vague and around 90% open to interpratation for exsample RP can mean a million things. Theres a non RP rule but there isent a blow up people stuff for no reson rule. or a common one "if you want to kill cops steal the convoy park it somewere and wait for them to come then shoot them"... The rules are just to vague hence the deathmatch feel that arises after a crime is commited.

That's because everybody should be able to mix the rules with a pinch of common sense to know what he is or is not allowed to do.

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Re: Cops without a rule
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2010, 01:19:18 am »
and people take %100 advantage of that like i said n do this just to have a fight with the cops

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Re: Cops without a rule
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2010, 04:49:18 pm »
Damn  :o wrong Forum btw.

I mean Chernarus Life (ArmA2)  8)