Chernarus Life 1.00

[B. Guarnere]

The bullet proof vest can you please make that realistic like 2 bullets in the vest knocks the player out, like in the trailer for arma 2 there is the first person view of the white screen looking around but not able to do anything, he's knocked out. Thats how it should be with 2 or 3 bullets in the chest of the bullet proof vest. and after 20 or 30 or 40 seconds the player can get up, which is much better then dieing and respawning.

[DeSantis]

Wow this is gonna be awesome! Do you guys already have the mod ready? or is this ideas?

[Leon]

The bullet proof vest can you please make that realistic like 2 bullets in the vest knocks the player out, like in the trailer for arma 2 there is the first person view of the white screen looking around but not able to do anything, he's knocked out. Thats how it should be with 2 or 3 bullets in the chest of the bullet proof vest. and after 20 or 30 or 40 seconds the player can get up, which is much better then dieing and respawning.

Bulletproof vest can hold only one bullet unless you have some plate armor. And I dont get why you should be stunned for 40 secs. Bullets never knock down. You go down when you are dead or in the shock.

[Patt-Patt]

you obviously dont know bullet proof vest you get hit in the chest with even a 9 mm and your ribs can snap like twigs so yes if your hit when u wearing a vest it can knock you down in pain think about it your in town sum1 shoots you with an ak47 thats a 7.62 mm round travels faster then the speed of sound when that hits you do you think becasue you wearing a bullet proof vest your not going to feel it hit with with force

[Leon]

you obviously dont know bullet proof vest you get hit in the chest with even a 9 mm and your ribs can snap like twigs so yes if your hit when u wearing a vest it can knock you down in pain think about it your in town sum1 shoots you with an ak47 thats a 7.62 mm round travels faster then the speed of sound when that hits you do you think becasue you wearing a bullet proof vest your not going to feel it hit with with force

Only cause of going down is by the pain or the shock of the hit but not from the hit it self. If the force of a recoil will not punch down the shooter the bullet force will not punch down the guy with vest either (action and reaction) thats the physics. I know that in a movies you see people flying away from shotgun muzzle but in real life there is nothin like that. Even person who has been shot by 7,62 tejmp to fall forward rather than backward, because his chest muscle will get weeker earlier than the back muscle. I can understand that some stoping effect can be seen on .50 caliber weapons since the shooter is also kicked back but you will never expirience this with handguns or rifles.

[B. Guarnere]

Patterson is correct, and the vest prob wouldnt stop the ak round nor an m16. High powered rifles will go through a vest. a .45 will most def knock you off your feat and you will most likely have a nice painful bruise or more likely a cracked rib. Its not a forcefield or whatever, it can only do so much, in the game you shouldnt be able to get shot a bunch of times and keep running with a vest. If you get shot about 3 times with a 9mm your done chaseing that guy. one of the bullets probably went through, and if not you will have some cracked ribs. Its supposed to be realistic, not running around taking a clip into your chest like arnold. GLAHAHAAA

[Patt-Patt]

U said u shouldent be stuned for x amount of secounds well let's say 3 of your ribs are broken and u feel like u have bin hit by a truck are you going to keep moving I have served in Iraq n afganistan wen I served in the army I haven't been shot myself but I know people dat have n even the some of the biggest guys couldent carry on fighting... Anyway I'm all fairness every time u get shot in game getting stund for a long time will ruin it but I agree body armour should be available and if u have it instead of stun it's should just give u extra health

[Zilinski]

that depends on the vest

the vests the us military uses in iraq are heavy, as required by IEDs and AK47s. Those vests are not seen outside of military or SWAT, and can in fact stop a rifle round

the kind of vests police use normally cant stand up to rifles from what i understand

[Leon]

Thats what I say even SWAT use vest that holds only only one handgun bullets I talk with some members just yesterday. TO Paterson Im sure that you will feel being hit by a bullet Im just saying its the pain not the force of the impact. The force is same that goes from stock to shoulder and you can stand this punch also. the rifle kicks into your shoulder with same force as bullet hits the vests.
I would use vest in CL this way if you have vest half of the damge is taken by vest and half by you health. Exhample guy is hit with 50 percent damage and guy is wearing vest 25 percent takes vest and 25 your health otherwise you would loose full 50.

[Patt-Patt]

no the force of the bullet hitting you is not the same as stock to shoulder i fired wahst called an SA80 A" or the L85A2 which is the standard british army rifle same rounds as the M16 5.56 mm but the SA80 is a bullpop design were the mgazine is to the rear giving a less recoil effect then the m16 which magazine is to the front so wat your saying the is lighter the recoil the less powerfull the bullet lmao learn the facts before you start talking about stuff you know nothing about and havent experianced a bullet travles faster then the speed of sound yes a bullet is small but thats like a fighter jet going at full speed and crashing into your chest!!!!!!!!!!!


anyway zilinksi your right the military mainly use a steel plate vest which can stop most bullets depending on range and police use either a kevlar whjich is fabric mixed with a chemical (i think) then twisted and tighetnd then they shape it i belive there is also a "stab proof vest" that british police use which can stop a knife and a 9mm depedning on range but kevlar vest can not stop bullets belive it or not on the standard body armor it is 2 thin like my helmet i have seen bullets go threw helmets but they are designed so hopefully the bullet hits it at an angle and it will refeclt of

[JaKe.OnE]

Steel plates? Are you living in the Middle Ages?
They uses ceramic plates with a thickness of 2-5cm. The weight is about 15, or with abdomen-protection 20kg. They protect u against 7,62mm and 9mm in 50+ meters.
7,62mm is bleeding through a 30cm brick in 10m distance. There is no working huma protection against this calibre for short fighting distances.

Normal units (security services, police and so on) are using semisolid vests like the "[wikipedia]dragon skin[/wikipedia]" vest. The german police use this one and afaik some units of the us army.
Additionally the german military (bundeswehr) uses vests with semisolid and shatter protection with collar.

Steel is only used on armored vehicles, a normal human could not carry it.

[Patt-Patt]

yeah i know but it stilla type of metal lol

[Leon]

DUDE dont tell me to learn facts its physics. from explosion in the muzzle one force is going into the stock and the other one into the bullet. These two forces are sama scalars or vectors of opposirte directions. Dont tell me Im wrong cuz I know Im right. And i saw people get shot with burst of AK 47 and I can tell they went down like bag of potatoes no force pushed them anywere. THey fall down cause they were dead thats all.

[Patt-Patt]

thats becasue bullet makes contact with skin and penetrates when you got a vest hit hit and stops the bullet like that the chnage of force etc i have serverd with army and i have seen some stuff i havent seen anyone fly of there feet but the recoil is diffrente to the speed of arifle bulle and more to proof that point shot gun shells dont travel as fast as a rifle bullet but you get more recoil


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtCvVvxGSNg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wLx382Yfns&feature=PlayList&p=4B8C32BF53700046&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=42

and yer really holds on bullet!!!

[Zilinski]

the us military was considering the use of the dragonskin, but they discovered if bullets come in at an angle. it gets through the armor because of the way its overlapped or something

 

also, every action has an equal and opposite reaction

getting shot with a rifle round to a vest is like getting punched in the chest VERY hard, it doesnt incapacitate you, and it doesnt normally knock you over

in fact, with adrenaline of battle pumping, you might not realize it

as quoted from a video of soldiers firing from their humvee during the invasion of bagdhad

Soldier 1: "Dude did you hear that?" *fires his rifle a couple rounds*

Soldier 2: "Hear what?"

Soldier 1: "Dude I think I'm hit!" (While looking down at his vest)

XD